{"id":13596,"date":"2019-04-10T13:26:01","date_gmt":"2019-04-10T18:26:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/?p=13596"},"modified":"2019-04-17T09:24:29","modified_gmt":"2019-04-17T14:24:29","slug":"foxing-conor-murphy-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/foxing-conor-murphy-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Foxing\u2019s Conor Murphy on leaving the basement behind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxingtheband.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Foxing<\/a> is a band in transition.<\/p>\n<p>The emo revivalists-turned-art rock heroes \u2014 who kick off their spring tour with Now, Now at the High Noon Saloon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.high-noon.com\/event\/9092795\/foxing-now-now\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">on April 18<\/a> \u2014 took a shot at immortality with last year\u2019s <em>Nearer My God<\/em>. And to their surprise, they stuck the landing. The album garnered <a href=\"https:\/\/uproxx.com\/music\/foxing-nearer-my-god-interview\/2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">rave<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/pitchfork.com\/reviews\/albums\/foxing-nearer-my-god\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">reviews<\/a> and comparisons to other critically adored experimentalists like Frank Ocean and Radiohead, both of whom were massive influences on <em>Nearer My God<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Vocalist Conor Murphy initially feared he and his bandmates might have gone too far with their third album.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe really worried that people weren\u2019t going to get it or like it,\u201d Murphy says. We spoke by phone recently during one of Foxing\u2019s practices. \u201cBut that\u2019s definitely just like classic musician fears that don\u2019t make any sense. It wasn\u2019t <em>Kid A <\/em>or anything.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s right. It\u2019s more <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stereogum.com\/2001885\/foxing-nearer-my-god-interview\/franchises\/interview\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">like <em>OK Computer<\/em><\/a>, another third album that completely redefined its creators\u2019 trajectory.<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"689\" height=\"388\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6YQQpBP6Q4o?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<p>Produced by former Death Cab for Cutie guitarist Chris Walla, <em>Nearer My God<\/em> saw Foxing take their cathartic melancholy to a new level. It\u2019s a collage of howling guitars and glittery electronics. And Murphy\u2019s lyrics have never been more prescient than they are on songs like \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6YQQpBP6Q4o\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Trapped in Dillard\u2019s<\/a>,\u201d a standout that opines lost love, considers spirituality, and rolls its eyes at consumerism \u2014 all in about four minutes.<\/p>\n<p><em>Nearer My God<\/em> is Foxing\u2019s thesis statement, growing their sound to fit their artistic ambition. Ahead of the St. Louis quartet\u2019s April 18 stop at High Noon, I chatted with Murphy about faking bagpipes, working with your heroes, and Dungeons and Dragons. This interview has been condensed and edited for grammar and clarity.<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<h4>The album\u2019s release was about six months ago. A lot of the lead-up press was really putting it in a position to look like something big. How has the reception been since then?<\/h4>\n<p>We had a lot of worries about it, which is why we kept preparing it as like this expansive, weird record. We were so surprised by the way everybody seemed to react positively. We set out to make a record that we loved and assumed that it would be kind of an oddball one.<\/p>\n<p>Playing it live has been very challenging. <em>(laughs)<\/em> We wrote and recorded without any notions of how many people would be on stage. So we\u2019ll record with like bagpipes and strings and synthesizers. But that\u2019s the most fun thing, figuring out how to replicate or replace what we can\u2019t bring with us. If we can\u2019t, for instance, bring bagpipes, the standard is to replace that with energy. Let\u2019s really bring out the dynamics of the song to make it feel like you don\u2019t miss the bagpipes.<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<figure id=\"attachment_13602\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13602\" style=\"width: 1620px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13602\" src=\"https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Foxing2-crHaydenMolinarolo.jpg\" alt=\"Foxing\" width=\"1620\" height=\"1620\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Foxing2-crHaydenMolinarolo.jpg 1620w, https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Foxing2-crHaydenMolinarolo-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Foxing2-crHaydenMolinarolo-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Foxing2-crHaydenMolinarolo-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Foxing2-crHaydenMolinarolo-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1620px) 100vw, 1620px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-13602\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hayden Molinarolo<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<h4>I know a lot of times with bands that start out under that emo umbrella, there can be kind of a backlash against them if they try to grow too much.<\/h4>\n<p>When you start out in a basement, you write songs kind of specifically for a basement. You never really expect to get out of the DIY scene, and you get caught doing these things that don\u2019t work well on stages or in theaters. It just does not translate unless you\u2019re screaming face to face with people.<\/p>\n<p>I wouldn\u2019t say emo as a genre is immature by any means. But we had to mature our instrumentation and my vocal performance to be something that translates well no matter where you\u2019re doing it \u2014 whether it\u2019s at a festival in front of 20,000 people or in some tiny venue with 100 people.<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<h4>How much did Chris Walla help you navigate that? If you talk about a guy who was in a band that started as one thing and morphed into something quite different over the years, he seems like the authority on on growing your band that way.<\/h4>\n<p>Chris has by far been the biggest mentor to us because of that exact reason. He\u2019s seen every stage of a band\u2019s growth and every stage of life for a band. So he knew exactly where we were and where we were trying to go. Not only is he extremely helpful in a recording sense and a writing sense, but also in a personal way. He continues to be the person we ask advice from more than anyone else, whether it\u2019s which bands to tour with or if it\u2019s worth it to bring lights on a tour. <em>(laughs)<\/em> He\u2019s truly like a big brother to us.<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"689\" height=\"388\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/exor8XXKTsE?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 20px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<h4>Excuse my nerding out here, but <a href=\"https:\/\/noisey.vice.com\/en_us\/article\/zmkga4\/foxing-nearer-my-god-interview\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">you\u2019ve mentioned<\/a> the D&amp;D module Curse of Strahd as influencing &#8216;Nearer My God.&#8217; My gaming group just finished it, and I was wondering if there were any specific moments on the album that you could kind of point out as being taken from the game.<\/h4>\n<p>I was doing a lot more general D&amp;D stuff than specific-to-Curse of Strahd moments. A lot of times when I got done running a session and then we would be writing something, it would bleed into it. But there\u2019s a warlock pact boon reference in \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=exor8XXKTsE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Won\u2019t Drown<\/a>.\u201d I had just finished doing the Tarokka reading <em>[which is basically fortune telling \u2014ed.]<\/em> session when we were writing it. So a lot of the original lyrics to that one were very heavily Strahd-inspired.<span class=\"\" style=\"display:block;clear:both;height: 0px;padding-top: 10px;border-top-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;\"><\/span>\n<p><em>Foxing will co-headline High Noon Saloon with Now, Now on <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.high-noon.com\/event\/9092795\/foxing-now-now\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Thursday, April 18<\/em><\/a><em>, with special guest Daddy Issues.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Foxing is a band in transition. 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