{"id":2313,"date":"2017-04-27T09:50:56","date_gmt":"2017-04-27T14:50:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/?p=2313"},"modified":"2020-02-17T13:34:25","modified_gmt":"2020-02-17T19:34:25","slug":"high-noon-saloon-cathy-dethmers-is-ready-to-take-her-bow","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thebozho.com\/high-noon-saloon-cathy-dethmers-is-ready-to-take-her-bow\/","title":{"rendered":"High Noon Saloon’s Cathy Dethmers is ready to take her bow"},"content":{"rendered":"

After decades behind the scenes of Madison\u2019s live music industry, Cathy Dethmers is ready to take her bow. On May 1, the owner of the High Noon Saloon will hand over the reins<\/a> of her beloved music venue to Frank Productions, ending a career that began in Madison\u00a0more than 20 years ago at the legendary punk and grunge club O\u2019Cayz Corral.\u00a0In advance of\u00a0an April 30 event<\/a>\u00a0celebrating her contributions to the city’s\u00a0music scene, The Bozho<\/em> sat down with Dethmers to discuss\u00a0how her career has\u00a0changed over the years and what she has planned next.<\/p>\n

So it\u2019s been about two decades [since you got your start in the music industry]?
\n<\/strong>I first opened O\u2019Cayz in \u201994… I had just turned 22.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m trying to think of what I was doing when I was 22, and it was pretty much nothing. What were the challenges of opening or taking over your own business at that age?
\n<\/strong>Well, I just had to learn everything from scratch. I hadn\u2019t taken any business classes or anything, so I spent a lot of time that prior summer in the library \u2014 since the internet was also not really that much of a thing \u2014 just trying to talk to other small business owners and lawyers and professionals who\u00a0could just kind of guide me in the right direction on stuff. But a lot of it was just kind of like, hold your nose and take the plunge and see how it all works out.<\/p>\n

What motivated you to buy O\u2019Cayz?
\n<\/strong>I got a job bartending [at O\u2019Cayz] when I was 19 and I worked there for a couple of years going through college [at the University of Wisconsin\u2013Madison], and it was very haphazardly run.\u00a0I only met the owner one time the whole time I worked there. I showed up for work on New Year\u2019s Eve right before my last semester of school and was told when I got there that it was closing the next day, which to me was not only devastating because I was losing a job, but it was like my second home there. I was getting a cultural anthropology degree, which I had zero plans to do anything with, so I kind of right away started thinking about what would it take for me to open the place back up and how could I do it. So as I was finishing school I was thinking a lot about that, and then spent that whole summer just working on making that happen.<\/p>\n

You had such legendary bands there.\u00a0Can you tell us some stories about that?
\n<\/strong>God, it was such a long time ago. It was such a different time then;\u00a0how people experience shows and how they found out about them. Something that happened really frequently is just being totally surprised by how awesome a band was because you couldn\u2019t vet them in advance online. If you didn\u2019t hear about them from a friend or read about them in some sort of music publication, you just had no idea. That\u2019s what was super exciting to me about live music. We\u2019d book somebody that seemed really cool but nobody really knew them.\u00a0Maybe there\u2019d be five people at the show and it would be the best band I\u2019d seen all year. And that kind of thing happened over and over, and some of those bands went on to be really huge. I mean, we didn\u2019t have that exact experience with White Stripes, but certainly the fact that White Stripes even played there a couple of times is ridiculous. [Laughs.<\/em>] I mean, it was a super small venue, and those shows were not sold out. Those are good memories to have.<\/p>\n

How is it different now, in terms of people coming out to shows? Now that we do have the internet, how has that affected the live\u00a0industry?
\n<\/strong>I just think there\u2019s less of that excitement \u2014\u00a0or less surprise, for sure. It\u2019s really, really rare that anybody comments later, \u201cWhoa, that was awesome, and I had no idea.\u201d I mean, occasionally you\u2019ll get that about an opening band if somebody doesn\u2019t do their thorough research in advance of the whole show, but you just see less of that kind of reaction to music anymore. And I think that\u2019s sad. It makes the audiences less mixed in some ways because people know the kind of music they like and they check it out in advance to make sure they like it. One thing about O\u2019Cayz was anybody could be there for any night and it was just like a total hodgepodge of different types of people…\u00a0because, you know, it was just people who liked live music rather than people that liked this band.<\/p>\n

Operationally, how are things different with High Noon in terms of booking and finding acts to play here?
\n<\/strong>Well, it\u2019s night and day just because of the internet. Back in the day, people would send cassette tapes and sometimes CDs and we would camp out at the bar and just listen to them and write reviews down on paper and then maybe give them a call on the phone. Now almost none of that ever happens. It\u2019s like, you check out their Facebook, you check out their ReverbNation, you check out their Bandcamp and then you email them back. You have really no personal connection with most of the bands unless they actually play here and you meet them.<\/p>\n

You sound really nostalgic.
\n<\/strong>Yeah, obviously it\u2019s just different and it\u2019s fine the way it is now \u2014\u00a0it\u2019s just the way it is. But there was just more personal connection on all levels. It\u2019s just an exciting part of the process of live music just being in the moment and connecting with other people, whether it\u2019s the band or strangers in the crowd that you\u2019re having this awesome shared experience with. I think a lot of that\u2019s lost, and that\u2019s just a bummer.<\/p>\n

Is that part of the reason why you\u2019re moving on?
\n<\/strong>No, not really. I guess there\u2019s a slight veneer of feeling jaded and disillusioned by the way things are where I\u2019m like, I don\u2019t feel as totally psyched about what I\u2019m doing anymore<\/em>. It feels a lot more rote and just kind of going through the motions than it used to because I have a lot less personal connection in every aspect of it. Part of [why I\u2019m leaving is] just my life because now I have two young children, and so I can\u2019t be here every single night connecting with the people that are at shows they\u2019re obviously enjoying and want to be at. That\u2019s the part of what I always loved about the business in the very beginning and really until now.\u00a0In reality what I\u2019m doing is I\u2019m throwing a party every night, and I would like to actually be at that party and enjoy it instead of just going through all of the painstaking details of making it happen. So, on that personal level, that is a big reason why I\u2019m leaving. I can\u2019t manage both family and this place the way I\u2019d like to. … I\u2019m missing out on the parts of this business that I love the most, so that makes it easier to step away because I\u2019m already kind of removed from my passion about the place.<\/p>\n

Madison has such pride about its music scene, and now it seems like some people are a bit freaked out, thinking that some of those smaller bands might not have the same access to exposure. What do you think?
\n<\/strong>That was a huge consideration of mine in finding a buyer, that they would respect the mix of things that we do here.\u00a0Make sure the local scene is still a big part of it, make sure that, even beyond music, the community events that we do like Nerd Nite and Pundamonium and just all the random stuff we do still has a home. And the Franks totally understand that and they admire that about this place, and they want it to continue. They\u2019ve assured me over and over and over again that that\u2019s the plan.<\/p>\n

How does it feel to see the outpouring of love and support \u2014\u00a0you\u2019re such an important figure in the music industry here \u2014\u00a0how does that feel?
\n<\/strong>It feels good. [Laughs.<\/em>] It\u2019s humbling, slightly embarrassing. It\u2019s cool. I started doing this because I cared about it and it meant something to me, and it\u2019s really awesome that it has also come to mean a lot to other people, too. In a way it goes back to what I was saying:\u00a0I just feel like I\u2019m throwing a party every night and that everybody\u2019s invited, and that\u2019s what I love about it. So it\u2019s very gratifying to know that people are enjoying coming to those parties when we keep doing it.<\/p>\n

Do you still plan to be involved in music in some way? What\u2019s next?
\n<\/strong>I don\u2019t have a specific plan other than parenting my children full on and with focus for the first time. [Laughs.<\/em>] And then I don\u2019t know. I\u2019ll always be a huge music fan. I play music, and I hope to do more of that when I actually have time to do it. I can\u2019t see myself ever walking totally away from the scene.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think they\u2019re going to let you.
\n<\/strong>Yeah. [Laughs.<\/em>] I mean, in terms of a job, I don\u2019t have an immediate plan, and I don\u2019t know if it would be in the music industry or not.<\/p>\n

As you make your exit, are there any bands where you\u2019re like, \u201cAh, this is my holy grail, and it didn\u2019t happen\u201d?
\n<\/strong>Not really.<\/p>\n

You got \u2019em all?
\n<\/strong>I mean, I can\u2019t say I got \u2019em all, but there\u2019s nothing where I\u2019m going to feel lasting regret over. I mean, my favorite band for a million years has been the Melvins, and they\u2019ve played here a bunch of times, so it can\u2019t get much better than having your very favorite band play your own club.<\/p>\n

This interview has been condensed and edited for grammar and clarity.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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